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By: oshane http://www.oshane.com/2009/02/why-socialism-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-151 Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:16:59 +0000 http://www.oshane.com/wp/?p=50#comment-151 1. http://www.oshane.com/wp/2009/02/the-skullduggery-of-drug-laws/

2. Removing the legal status of personhood from corporate and limited liability structures: this is an interesting area to explore from a libertarian perspective.

3. Ban advertising: I cannot agree. People should never be prevented from speaking about any subject as long as they are not harassing someone else or harming private property.

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By: Ray http://www.oshane.com/2009/02/why-socialism-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-150 Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:21:35 +0000 http://www.oshane.com/wp/?p=50#comment-150 Legalize marijuana and hemp, remove the legal status of personhood from corporations, and ban any and all forms of advertising, and that would be a perfect form of capitalism.

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By: oshane http://www.oshane.com/2009/02/why-socialism-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-149 Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:04:12 +0000 http://www.oshane.com/wp/?p=50#comment-149 You, sir, are conflating (mixing together) not wanting to be stolen from by Government and giving voluntarily. You have no knowledge of how much I or anybody else has given to ease the suffering of others.

Government is not the salvation of the poor, the homeless, the insane or the broken. To believe so is to believe a lie. It doesn’t work, and government programs usually end up doing more harm than good.

Question for you about “wealthy business owners”: let’s say you are getting a sliver of the profits. What would you rather have, zero? I.e. no pay, because they didn’t hire you? Or would you rather just steal their money because they have it and you don’t. Don’t accuse others of selfishness when you would use the power of the government (read: guns) to take money from others.

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By: lovly2008 http://www.oshane.com/2009/02/why-socialism-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-148 Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:56:48 +0000 http://www.oshane.com/wp/?p=50#comment-148 Oh by the way, see my response below. Also, have you ever been homeless? I think not, let me tell you what else causes homelessness. Another major cause of homelessness is wealthy business owners, raking in big bucks off the backs of workers who get a sliver of the profits. Then, greedy property owners decide they need more rent, while giving less services and pretty soon you have rents that are too high, for a people who are not being paid for THEIR hard work. Now that is the true cause of homelessness. Oh, and lets not forget that those who are “insane”, dont stand a prayer against this high rent off their little bitty disability checks. Do you think the government will even stoop to help them, heck no. Why? because you smarty arts have complained so bitterly about “I work, others eat of my labor”. God Bless your selfish little hearts.

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By: oshane http://www.oshane.com/2009/02/why-socialism-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-147 Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:55:37 +0000 http://www.oshane.com/wp/?p=50#comment-147 Is there an argument here, or just a rant filled with conclusions which you believe to be self-evident?

First of all, if it weren’t for capital owned by someone else being invested, you would be subsistence farming either on your own land or on someone else’s. By investment, I mean risk. Because some rich person was willing to risk loss of a significant amount of money, you are able to use a refrigerator. Similiarly, you are able to buy washing machines, dryers, dishwashers, dish soap, toothpaste and all the other necessities of life that you take for granted. Socialism, collectivism forced upon a mass of people such that they are stolen from to provide for others, did not produce those things.

Capital provides jobs. Again, without those “puny” people, you would have to find a way to produce everything you need on your own little plot of land. Think Little House on the Prairie: there’s nothing wrong with that life, but it’s a harder life than, I’m sure, you realize. Imagine trying to find a way to clean your teeth from the resources on your own land.

Why do you begrudge people who have worked hard to accumulate wealth by reinvesting it into labor over and over again? They provide many jobs; they bring good things to the rest of us.

I submit that you are merely envious and angry and filled with rage that is not only misplaced, but evil itself. You believe that stealing from others to satisfy your own desires is right. It is not.

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By: lovly2008 http://www.oshane.com/2009/02/why-socialism-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-146 Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:45:49 +0000 http://www.oshane.com/wp/?p=50#comment-146 Stop trying to understand a useless word and focus on the word “regulation”.

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By: lovly2008 http://www.oshane.com/2009/02/why-socialism-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-145 Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:44:35 +0000 http://www.oshane.com/wp/?p=50#comment-145 Excellent “troll” response? I just love it when assinine people pretend to know it all and feel the need to put others down to drive home the notion. Ha ha ha. It’s kinda like when you use the word socialism. What a joke! Half of you dont even know what the word means.

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By: lovly2008 http://www.oshane.com/2009/02/why-socialism-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-144 Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:41:30 +0000 http://www.oshane.com/wp/?p=50#comment-144 First of all, Im pretty sure you know that there will be no socialism in the United states under any President. This is just a word the Republicans have taught you parrots to speak, to further their cause of regaining the White House. Secondly, Im sick and tired of you all trying to pretend you work so hard, because we all know the more money you make the less you work. The United states and all other countries for that matter is full of lazy people, which is why we have some much technology, to keep us from working. The very fact that we have so many gyms and exercise equipment, SCREAMS that fact!

Does it make you feel good to pretend that your puny labor is really supporting half the United States citizens? And please allow me to ask this question of you hard working know it alls…….When we had the welfare system and we took care of our poor, what condition was our country in? Was it in recession like now, since we’ve been making all the money we want and cutting all the social services programs and calling regulation “socialism”?

God Bless America? For what?

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By: oshane http://www.oshane.com/2009/02/why-socialism-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-143 Sun, 05 Apr 2009 01:35:10 +0000 http://www.oshane.com/wp/?p=50#comment-143 You are most welcome. Thank you for the comment.

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By: Tennessee Vol fan http://www.oshane.com/2009/02/why-socialism-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-142 Sun, 05 Apr 2009 00:17:10 +0000 http://www.oshane.com/wp/?p=50#comment-142 This has really helped me to better understand what Socialism really is. I thought I knew and as it turns out I was right.I work others eat and live off my labors. Thanks

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By: O.Shane Balloun http://www.oshane.com/2009/02/why-socialism-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-141 Sat, 04 Apr 2009 23:16:39 +0000 http://www.oshane.com/wp/?p=50#comment-141 Excellent troll response.

There are four distinct causes to homelessness:

1) Natural disaster
2) Insanity
3) Laziness or poor choices
4) Socialism

Everyone gets richer under capitalism. Everyone, except those doing very big business and those associated with government, gets poorer under socialism. This is a demonstrable, provable, historical fact.

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By: lovly2008 http://www.oshane.com/2009/02/why-socialism-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-140 Sat, 04 Apr 2009 20:14:31 +0000 http://www.oshane.com/wp/?p=50#comment-140 So, are you people saying that you think its better to let the rich continue to rob the poor with exorbant prices for services and goods, while you continue to get richer and richer and they become homeless? I mean, are you saying that socialism is the cause of our current economic downturn? I mean, Im not an economic expert by any means, but it just seems to me that when our country helped the poor and regulated prices and whatnot, that we were such a lucrative country. What the hell happend to us? We stopped giving and got broke? Well what do I know, you guys are the experts.

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By: A Reply to a Comment on Why Socialism Fails « oshane:blog http://www.oshane.com/2009/02/why-socialism-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-46 Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:58:55 +0000 http://www.oshane.com/wp/?p=50#comment-46 […] oshane:blog Continuously opining, intermittently publishing. « Why Socialism Fails […]

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By: Chevas http://www.oshane.com/2009/02/why-socialism-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-11 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:22:44 +0000 http://www.oshane.com/wp/?p=50#comment-11 Winston Churchill Quotes:

“Some see private enterprise as a predatory target to be shot, others as a cow to be milked, but few are those who see it as a sturdy horse pulling the wagon.”

“The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.”

“We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.”

“An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile—hoping it will eat him last.”

“The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.”

“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.”

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By: The Balloun Post » Blog Archive » Why Socialism Fails http://www.oshane.com/2009/02/why-socialism-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 06:17:29 +0000 http://www.oshane.com/wp/?p=50#comment-10 […] Click here to read the entire article. […]

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By: roland http://www.oshane.com/2009/02/why-socialism-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-9 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:22:56 +0000 http://www.oshane.com/wp/?p=50#comment-9 I am only partially through this and wanted to comment anyway. I should not be amazed at all that you and I have such similar thoughts–but I could not put it down on paper anyway near as well as you have. Hope you don’t mind but I will be giving you a more in depth comment later. If you read basic Marxist principles, you can see that much of what is happening right now is straight from his twisted thinking.

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By: Chevas http://www.oshane.com/2009/02/why-socialism-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-8 Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:11:31 +0000 http://www.oshane.com/wp/?p=50#comment-8 I love this post. This so amazingly describes what I haphazardly, but somewhat effectively, try to explain to people around me. Socialism is theft of my labors, Socialism is only possible through the government’s use of force, and therefore, Socialism is violence towards humanity…beautiful.

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